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Name: Frank Van Laere
Age: 23
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Team name: Pigeon Racing
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The divisions have just been updated. As usual, I have moved up some teams from divisions that were almost empty, and tried to make sure that everyone is in an interesting division.
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Name: Adam Eggbeer
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Name: Daniel Juett
Age: 20
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Name: Christian Lao
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| its not that bad there are only 5 teams with managers and 3 teams out of that with drivers in div4.48 |
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Name: Christian Lao
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| but that means i might be able to get promoted though |
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Kris12997
Name: Christian Lao
Age: 12
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| mine you div4.47 only has one manager |
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Name: Bob Eagle
Age: 21
Town: birmingham uk
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Team name: Performance Squad Racing
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damn i got promoted, Why did you promote me fRank grrrr.
Only joking, think ive moved up a season too quick, its gonna be a tough season. Ive got a record of never being relagated in pitwall, its going to be tough to keep that one up i think. |
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Name: Mika Kylmäniemi
Age: 31
Town: Tampere
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| Same here, never relegated and never will be! :D |
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Stevie
Name: Steve Lee
Age: 30
Town: Pontefract
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Team name: Feegs Racing
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| Same here, although i was in 3.12 for 8 seasons!! |
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Name: Metal :D
Age: 27
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Team name: [10] Minardi Mugen-Honda
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| It'll be easy enough to get a point or two in the early races, always seems to be the way. Div3.5 looks to be very interesting this season, that's for sure! |
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Name: Martin Rosina
Age: 24
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Team name: Tiger Racing
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| I think the current system completely negates any planning. I've got promoted from 3rd position without being warned. And I guess not all 3rd spots in final standings from divisions 4.x got promoted...so disappointed that I'm considering quiting the game |
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danhawkerz
Name: Dan Hawkridge
Age: 18
Town: York
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| With all respect Martin, its better to idle around growing your car in Div 3 than Div 4, especially with the points you scored last season. Its gotta be more fun when there are more than 8 drivers in a race surely? |
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danm
Name: dan mills
Age: 24
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Team name: Lotus Racing Team
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Jesus. I finished third in Div 4, and find myself in a ridiculously difficult Division 3.
I purposely wanted to stay down so I could actually afford to make a challenge in Division 3 at a later attempt.
All this means now is another wasted two seasons. This year I will not score any points, and it isn't remotely worth developing anything. I'll be relegated back to Division 4; and then back to where I was last season, trying to save money AGAIN and not to mention I'll have to redevelop the car as Division 3 will destroy me.
Not a good update Franky boy, sorry!
I think I would prefer if you kept us down, and not promote us. The thought is good, but in reality, you've just screwed our game plans we have been playing for.
I chose not to finish half my races just so this promotion didn't happen. If people want to nominate themselves for promotion, then maybe add a tick box saying they agree to a random promotion even if they didn't win.
If there is any chance you can demote me, PLEASE DO! This has scuppered my plans completely that I worked for, including my driver choices, engines EVERYTHING!
Agree with Martin.
Not happy! Not one bit. :( |
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Tk56 *Online*
Name: Lee Palmer
Age: 18
Town: Worcester
Skill: Superb
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| Just devlop the car... Devloping doesn't matter what division your in. |
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danm
Name: dan mills
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Team name: Lotus Racing Team
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Trust me, being last sucks a hell of a lot more than being in a division with half the people. And knowing how the season will pan out already is even worse.
The point is regarding planning your game strategy.
I intended and played the season NOT to promote, not even entering races to ensure this.
Now I am promoted, I didn't develop my car as I would have, and thus am in a division I neither wanted or are prepared for. It defies the whole way people play.
The idea of extra promoting was to make it more fun, but its had the opposite effect. I now have no reason to waste money on engines and whatnot, or enter or test as I will get a double last.
That is not fun! |
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Name: Metal :D
Age: 27
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Team name: [10] Minardi Mugen-Honda
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| You're not the only one who's been in your position, nor will you be the last. Suck it up and just make lots of silly press releases, stalk the forums. Keep it interesting! :D |
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Name: Leo Virtanen
Age: 30
Town: Helsinki
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| Will there be two extra youth races for all because of last season youth race stucks? |
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AbCat
Name: Fenwick Trevathen
Age: 31
Town: Falmouth
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Jeez, what a bunch of scaredy-cats and sand-baggers!
I really don't see the point of racing if you aren't trying your darndest to get promoted. |
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mcdxcom
Name: Daniel Stevens
Age: 28
Town: Banstead
Skill: Superb
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Team name: Skill Grand Prix
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Date posted: Tuesday 20 July 2010 11:46
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what set you back isn't being promoted!!!! - its your attitude 'oh i wont win now so why bother developing' - this is what sets you back - by not developing when you have been promoted your car will go backwards and you will find yourself where you were 2 seasons ago.
yes being in a tougher division will affect the moral of you drivers if your not scoring points and it may mean you will loose some prize money and get relegated. But you will still have a good income and as said before you can save money buy not getting contracts and doing any testing. - so to be honest i think this more or less cancels out the loss of prize money.
You can continue to improve your car and get it set up for next season in a lower division. |
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Tk56 *Online*
Name: Lee Palmer
Age: 18
Town: Worcester
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Personally I would like to see more of an incentive to get as high as possible e.g:
- extra money from sponsors possibly,
- being allowed to run an extra youth driver (div 4 u can run 1, 3 u can run 2, 2 and 1 u can run 3,
- only allowing 3 Section 1 sponsors in div 4, 4 in div 3 and all 5 in div 2.
- even something simple like increasing 1st places championship winnings,
IMO the divisions feel very samey and something like this would help as then everyone would want to promote for the advantages the higher division brings. The only issue with this is it needs to be something that doesn't disrupt the game. New guys being promoted still need to have a good shout at challenging the higher guys. The above ideas are just that ideas if anyone has a better idea for an incentive to race in the higher division feel free. |
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mcdxcom
Name: Daniel Stevens
Age: 28
Town: Banstead
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Date posted: Tuesday 20 July 2010 14:35
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i agree lee - but the problem would be that extra money etc. would make it easier for the top teams to stay up the top and harder for other teams to get there.
The incentive is the prestige of being in a higher division - you know your team is getting there when you are mixing it in div 2 and breaking into div 1. And everybody knows those teams are good.
We all look at the teams that constantly go up and down div 4/3 and have been here for 10 seasons or more. We all smirk and we know in our hearts they are rubbish. Even they know themselves.
Want respect?.....wear a condom...NO get your team into a top division!!!!! |
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Name: Renato La Porta
Age: 38
Town: Genoa, IT
Skill: Average
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Team name: Fireblade Racing UK
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Quoting mcdxcom
Want respect?.....wear a condom...NO get your team into a top division!!!!!
I think it is a matter of personal ambition. I for example, was in division 4.52, without opponents, and although the game is fun, I am not amused. I am now in Division 3.13, the better divisional rating is 22%, I will do everything to stay here, but if we do not succeed, I'll relegated in the lower category. But my goal is not get a car with the overall rating to 100%, but racing in Division 1 |
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Name: Robbie Bouchard
Age: 29
Town: Vancouver
Skill: Superb
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Team name: Bouchard F1 Racing Team
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I think a lot of people have the wrong idea about developing and I hope a division 1 team can correct me but it is very unlikely that you will have a 100% overall car but rather you will have a average of a 90-95% car with a few parts at 100%. It depends on those 100% overall part on how well you do.
For the teams complaining about promotion; Suck it up since you don't gain anything by being in a lower division other then a bit of prize money. To state that you have been set back by the promotion is false. If you choice not to develop then you are handicapping your own team; not Frank by early promotion.
You will lose a lot more by not developing to teams like myself that set season goals in development and standings then you think. Most teams save money near the end of the season so this is the only time you wont lose that much. |
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AnimalRacing
Name: Tom Bagley
Age: 27
Town: London
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| I believe you are correct Bouch, i mean there are 6 or 7 parts that are 98/99/100 overall in my division so that suggests the top cars in div 1 are more average than 100% overall. |
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Jacky
Name: Jack Lane
Age: 17
Town: Northampton
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Quoting Mister YQuoting mcdxcom
Want respect?.....wear a condom...NO get your team into a top division!!!!! I think it is a matter of personal ambition. I for example, was in division 4.52, without opponents, and although the game is fun, I am not amused. I am now in Division 3.13, the better divisional rating is 22%, I will do everything to stay here, but if we do not succeed, Ill relegated in the lower category. But my goal is not get a car with the overall rating to 100%, but racing in Division 1
That's the spirit! You'll go far with that attitude!
22% isn't that bad, much better than mine were when I first had a go at div 3! |
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Tk56 *Online*
Name: Lee Palmer
Age: 18
Town: Worcester
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Date posted: Wednesday 21 July 2010 12:50
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| The thing is you've still got that same car (performance wise) no matter what division your in. Everyones long term and short term plan is devloping the car. This plan is not affected by what division your in the only thing that will be affected is a money income. |
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Name: Peter Ryan
Age: 24
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I remember when I 1st started pitwall 4 seasons ago now, I got a promotion to div 3 after one season and didnt really complete many races in div 4, however jumped into div 3 with not much expectations to stay, I just developed as much as I could, and mid season hired a new driver with really good stats, which come final race paid off as he scored a single point and kept me up in div 3, last season I was looking to stay up and reach around 5th or 6th in the standings and ended up 3rd.
This season im looking to better that. my goal is no lower than 3rd but im aiming 2nd or title, although looking at a couple teams in the div i'm unsure about my title chances, but i'll do what i can to challenge, as long as my drivers finish races, they should finish in good places. |
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Name: Robbie Bouchard
Age: 29
Town: Vancouver
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Date posted: Wednesday 21 July 2010 19:29
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Quoting Tk56
The thing is youve still got that same car (performance wise) no matter what division your in. Everyones long term and short term plan is devloping the car. This plan is not affected by what division your in the only thing that will be affected is a money income.
Your season goals do change depending on what division your in but it's your personal choice as to how much to push your development, contracts to sign and how much money to save or spend. I wont lye I have had a few season where I wonder if it would be better to run two average drivers, OB contracts and save the cash for a massive season long development push but started to realize that with the current season development setting the way they are you still will lose a lot of ground no matter what you focus on so you need to develop hard all season anyways but your season goals do change.
Quoting Overus
my goal is no lower than 3rd but im aiming 2nd or title, although looking at a couple teams in the div im unsure about my title chances, but ill do what i can to challenge, as long as my drivers finish races, they should finish in good places.
Keep you goals high since you never know what will happen to the leading teams of the division from retirements, internet connection issues and simple bad luck; the championship could fall into your lap.
I really liked your season preview for your team since I didn't know that much about your team but with the limited teams we have in 3.13, we all should be scoring some good points this season. My cars aren't any where near as good as last year or two season ago when I had then just under 90% overall so you have a chance !! |
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danm
Name: dan mills
Age: 24
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Date posted: Sunday 25 July 2010 18:16
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People make of the game what they want, and enjoy it in their own ways.
As long as its in the rules, my purposeful intention of sticking in the lower divisions is well within that.
I am just not happy that outside of the rules, I have been cherry picked to promote, when I wasn't meant to, and also, didn't plan for.
Had I known I was going to be jumped up, I would not have spent money on crappy contracts LAST season (paid for them in advance) for another Div 4 year. So I am stuck with crap contracts, in a difficult league with zero preparation of how it was meant to go.
There is no rule saying you can't sink, and then leapfrog. There's no 'spirit of the game' besides fun.
My fun just got taken out.
The cherrypicking of promoting non winners just means that you have to follow the concensus of developing as you go. It's a one way method.
So even if you want to do it differently, you are denied. |
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danm
Name: dan mills
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Team name: Lotus Racing Team
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Date posted: Monday 26 July 2010 14:34
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No thats the thing, I won't pick up any points, and I will for sure relegate. What's the point?
Check the testing times. Dead LAST by a long shot. Exactly what I expected and knew would happen, hence I wanted to stay down, save, and contract up some great drivers and parts.
I purposely didn't resign my 'good' drivers, and now theres crap all to choose.
Sadly, it looks like two more seasons of hell.
Even then, I will probably get cherrypicked when I don't want to. |
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Tk56 *Online*
Name: Lee Palmer
Age: 18
Town: Worcester
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Date posted: Monday 26 July 2010 15:40
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| Don't read too much into testing times different teams running different programes. I'm in your div and some of the team have done loads of laps (so will have a good setup). Race 1 will be the time you actualy see where you are. |
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mcdxcom
Name: Daniel Stevens
Age: 28
Town: Banstead
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Date posted: Monday 26 July 2010 16:49
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the thing is mate what is the other option????? either frank groups all the div 4 teams together to fill as many of the divisions as possible and therby giving everyone in div 4 some competition and making it fun and then promoting more than one team. Or he spreads all the div 4 teams out so there are no empty divisions and then you will only have 1 or 2 teams in each division!!!!! They will know if they are going to be promoted or not but they will have a shit time in div 4 and then suffer relegation in div 3!! hmmmm i wonder how many new players would leave after 2 seasons like this???
So which one would you prefer? i bet the first one be honest!!!! |
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Name: Daniel Juett
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Date posted: Sunday 01 August 2010 20:31
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| Do you think there's any chance of moving the groups around some more? My grouphas 5 active teams and my old group has 1.. (all in div 4) |
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